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A shot across the bow

by: Adam L aka clammyc

Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 12:52:39 PM EST



If you haven't heard yet, Garden State Equality's Board has voted to end the practice of donating to political parties, and is now going to dedicate its donating practices to those candidates and officials who share their views.

Personally, this is a great thing to see, as the Democratic Party (both on the local, state and national levels) have taken progressives for granted - using us as an ATM (or in this instance as coined by someone who I will certainly credit when I remember, a gAyTM) to elect their candidates because "the other party is worse" but then offering little in the way of real change.  

"Better than the alternative" has gotten real old real quick - we have had large majorities as well as the Governorship here in NJ for quite some time now - and a good number of progressive issues and causes have gotten little traction.  On the Federal level, this is the same story - first it was "we need a majority", then it was "we need a bigger House majority and 60 Senate seats", and even then it took a shitstorm to even get the repeal of DADT on the agenda.

The Democratic Party (again, here in NJ as well as on a national level) should see this as yet another sign of a wake up call.  No longer are progressives happy to work and donate to the party structure only to get pushed aside.  The rise of the national netroots has given progressives the ability to donate and promote individual candidates based on views, support of issues or to reward for "going to bat" for progressive causes.

Amazingly, equality is one that has to be pushed for over and over and over again - and is one that is pushed aside or given half-hearted "separate but equal" actions.

On the issue of marriage equality, AmericaBlog has already initiated a Don't Ask, Don't Give initiative, and as noted by Pam's House Blend (where you can also see the entire text of the resolution), this could lead to support for Republican Party candidates who support marriage equality.

National and State Democratic Party leaders should sit up and take notice - the progressive netroots and grassroots has been kicked around for long enough, and has been able to organize in one of the few ways that elected officials react to - money and donations.  The tired excuses and lack of support by those who made promises in order to gain support and election will most certainly come back and bite them over time.

It may not be this November, but you can bet this is more of a blueprint for future netroots and grassroots campaigns and less of an aberration.  The state and national Democratic Parties can ignore this or write it off, but they do so at their own peril.

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Reaction to our move so far today (4.00 / 9)
has been the most overwhelmingly positive response we've ever gotten.  We anticipate other advocacy organizations across the country will soon do the same.

Now for those of you who'll ask, is this anyway to make friends among pols we'll need for future battles, here goes:

1.  We've passed every LGBT civil rights law imaginable in New Jersey - except for marriage equality, now back in the courts.  We in New Jersey have the luxury and the moral responsibility to lead on this.  

2.  Please, we've played the inside game.  GSE is a hell of a lot more than sound bites in the press.  We have contributed massive amounts of political money and volunteers to Democrats during campaigns, including during this last campaign.  Including outright contributions by GSE, as well as individuals' checks we've bundled over the years, we've given around $500,000 in contributions since our founding in 2004.

You couldn't ask for a constituency to have worked harder for the Democratic party.


I gotta tell you, Steven.... (4.00 / 3)
this is a great move, and any heat you and GSE take will be from people that are running scared.

I've already seen some of the "messages" from those who want their cake/money and to eat it too.


Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


[ Parent ]
Very smart action for GSE. (4.00 / 4)
We should be supporting individual candidates, not parties.  Money gets wheeled around NJ at dizzying speeds and when it is all put in the same pot to be doled out according to political whim of those in charge, it loses its power.

I saw first hand the amazing force of GSE in action, in supporting Dems in general, not just on the ME issue, but on progressive issues.  GSE was right there while we were battling Joe Ferriero.  Steven was right by our side the whole time, supporting the Real Bergen Dems.

We should ALWAYS support the BEST progressive candidates, not just those with a D or R after their names.  This was a huge signal that needed to be sent straight to the heart of the NJ state Democratic Party.

Steven, I think they finally heard you!

One Vote. Yours. It really does matter.


It's About Principle, Not Party..... (4.00 / 1)
..and it always has been.    The ideal will always be to support the election of leaders who will do what is right simply because they believe it's right and be willing to run on those principles win or lose.

So long as the majority of pols falsely believe that being against marriage equality will increase their chances of winning elections, many of them will continue to vote no......and that's what just happened in the NJ Senate.

At this point I see two avenues of action in addition to the obvious push in the courts.

A massive public consciousness raising/awareness campaign that is aggressively pushing for folks to seriously discuss and think about these issues.   That means challenging opponents to public debates at every level of discourse.   Make the polling numbers so favorable that pols will fear LOSING elections if they tow the line that gives aid and comfort to the bigots.

Second, the marriage equality movement should redouble it's efforts to make common cause with a full spectrum of progressive causes/organizations.....from tenant's rights to reform of the financial services industry to universal single payer health care etc etc etc.  You might lose a few irredeemably conservative gay people; but you'll gain twenty times that number from the general population.



This approach cuts across all levels (4.00 / 1)
Progressives have every reason to be dissatisfied at all levels, whether in NJ with respect to how the fight for marriage equality developed or at the national level in which overwhelming Democratic majorities in Congress have produced things like a health care bill that falls far short of real reform. In instances like this, the assumption that progressives' money is there for the taking has to end. My partner and I have gone from giving to the DCCC and other national organizations, to ignoring their calls, to now telling them in no uncertain terms that we're done running an entitlement program for the Democratic Party. Support is earned, not assumed.

I've done the same (0.00 / 0)
Instead of ignoring the DCCC calls, I have told them precisely why I will not give to them.

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.

[ Parent ]
Timing of the calls... (0.00 / 0)
I got a call from the DCCC the Saturday after the marriage equality vote in the Senate. With that fresh on my mind, I politely waited for the caller to finish his schpiel before giving my long list of reasons for why I would not be giving. He couldn't wait to finish the call.

[ Parent ]
and mine were (0.00 / 0)
as more and more were being stripped from the HCR bill - telling me that it is of utmost importance to pass "reform".

I laughed in their face at first.

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


[ Parent ]
and this gets them 21 votes in the Senate how??? (0.00 / 0)
and what about the Republican Governor who already said he'd veto the bill when it reaches his desk.  not to mention a party that won't allow him to reappoint supreme jurists who dare change their minds now on marriage equality.

of course this would be the first organization to endorse on pure principle and not real politics (like enviros, business, unions, etc. according to leaning districts whatever the party). so good for you.


it is more than this one "issue" (0.00 / 0)
it is about not being taken for granted by legislators that take money and make promises, only to do little with the majorities.

I'll give you another example - I live in NJ-5, Scott Garrett is my congressman.  It is looking more and more like the county parties aren't going to put ANYONE up - at a time where republican turnout will be higher and more motivated than the past 5+ years.

Why should I work for electing county Democrats - especially the BCDO - when they are going to punt on the Congressional race, and have shit the bed so badly and ruined the Democratic brand name up here?

What good are bad Democrats who don't do anything for progressives?  I'd rather have bad republicans that can be voted out.

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


[ Parent ]
Flaming moderate - I don't understand the internal conflict in your own posts (4.00 / 1)
Here at Blue Jersey and in other blogs - where you post entries under your real name that are almost verbatim to what you post here - you took us to task for ever pursuing marriage equality legislation in the first place; you said here, and to me in person, that we should have gone right back to court.  And now you wonder how this helps us get to 21 votes in the legislature.  Huh?  

By the way, you really believe that earlier on, the Supreme Court would have said, gee, we made a mistake a short time ago by mandating only civil unions, whoops!  

If you read the Court's 2006 Lewis v Harris decision, as I know a lawyer like you has, you'll see that the Court all but awaits evidence that the civil union experiment hasn't worked.  That evidence is ample today, including through the legislative process just concluded, where legislators - including opponents - admitted on the record that the civil union law has failed.

In its 2006 Lewis v Harris decision, the Court also cited the fact that Massachusetts was then the only U.S. state with marriage equality and that civil unions were working just fine in Vermont and Connecticut.  Well, it wasn't until 2009 that we had five states adopt marriage equality, including Vermont and Connecticut.

See you in Trenton.


[ Parent ]
Where were the 21 votes? (4.00 / 1)
We didn't exactly get to 21 votes by playing ball with the Democrats all this time, now did we? We can't do much worse now.

[ Parent ]
I am so sorry (4.00 / 1)
Something terrible happened -it seems I hit more keys than I should have and a bunch of preliminary comments got posted.

I'm going to finish the thought
off line and repost - meanwhile, Rosi, Jeff, whoever, please delete any comment headed " Hey, we know we're cooked"

I'll repost the best, last version when I see all the c*** has disappeared.

It's amazing what can happen when a Columbus-method typist accidentally hits the Control Key ...


heh...and I was just going to ask (4.00 / 1)
[ Parent ]
In this legislature, at this time (4.00 / 1)
yes. stick a fork in us. SSM in NJ is in the hands of the courts.

I'm so embaraased - when I vent, I prefer that it sound at least marginally sane. I delete 50 percent of what I start out posting to Blue Jersey.

Once my spurious comments are deleted (or they disappear below the fold), I'll post the completed thought.


[ Parent ]
The compplete version: Hey, we know we're cooked (4.00 / 3)
Let me preface this by saying, I would never insult someone like Shirley Turner by mispelling her name. That was a typo in my earlier, and unintentionally posted, draft. I hate how she voted but I would not be so rude.

So here's the finished post. I can't wait until the unbaked versions get deleted.

Hey, we know we're cooked

in the Legislature, senate and assembly, until CC is promoted to his next level of incompetence.

Meanwhile, WHY would I contribute money to the state Democrats, knowing it might go to, say Shirley Turner or Paul Sacco, when I can donate money directly to, say, Bill Baroni?

Let's reward our friends, and punish our enemies - and, as a bloc, the Democrats have proven to be, if not my enemies, then not my BFFs ... Christie came in and the Democrats as a group folded like a cheap lawn chair. End of Story. I'm not impressed ...

I'll give money to (take notes, people) Sens. Jim Whelan, Bob Smith, Barbara Buono, Ray Lesniak, Dick Codey, Teresa Ruiz, Sandra Cunningham, Brian Stack, Nia Gill, Loretta Weinberg, Robert Gordon, Nick Scutari, Joe Vitale, and (drum roll, please) Bill Baroni (R-Mercer).

But to no voters John Girgenti, Fred Madden, Ronald Rice, Nicholas Sacco, Shirley Turner, Jeff Van Drew, or abstainers James Beach, Paul Sarlo, and Steve Sweeney?

Oh, hell no. GSE has so got this right.

And Bill Baroni, I promise, will get $25 from me personally in the near future. Guaranteed. And kids, I skate on the frozen pond of bankruptcy. $25 is the widow's mite for me. Send Bill Baroni some love, and maybe the state Republicans might discover that Gerald Cardinale isn't their future ...

So, Flaming Moderate ... WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY would I as a gay man support the NJ Democratic Party? Chris Christie won the election, and I just got thrown under a bus!

Yes, it would be better for all of us progressives to support all of the Democrats, all of the time - an opinion I would hold if I were a Democratic stalwart, and had something to lose by seeing my LBGTI compatriots get a little more selective in how we vote with our dollars.

But I'm not.

In 2002, I attended Steven Goldstein's very first public event at Princeton University on behalf of Lambda Legal in support of SSM. I think at one point I held the record for most consistent attendance at Steven's events from the time Lambda Legal hired and deployed him though his founding of GSE.

I've been on board this train ever since the beginning, even though sometimes I've been hanging off the last car, all pissed off at the engineer. But I keep hanging onto that last car ...

Why?

Because for the first time in my life, I could see that an organization was trying to heal my personal wounds as a gay man in America - and as a gay man in New Jersey.

As far as I am concerned, nothing - certainly not the ascendancy of the Democratic Party in New Jersey, which the party just threw away in a lackluster campaign that even Barack Obama couldn't save - trumps same sex marriage as an issue.

Nothing.

Some of you get this. Those of you who don't, really haven't walked in my shoes. Or you have ... but you've sold out.

I could genuinely give a f*** about the NJ Democratic Party. Shit, I've been in this state, with time off for good behavior, since 1958. Flaming Moderate, do you think the Democratic Party is some powerful beacon of responsibility in the darkness  cast by the Republicans?

Hilarious! Tell it to John Lynch!

The high ground the NJ Democratic party occupies is a few scant inches above sea level, much like the Turnpike in Elizabeth. Maybe you guys are better than the Republicans, but your grip on the moral high ground is  a very minor advantage.

Y'all blew your own reelection of Jon Corzine. I genuinely liked Jon - hell, I even thought monetarization of the Turnpike was a damn fine idea. Could have bailed the state out in a big hurry. But I am one in a million ...

Christ knows that LBGTI folks did what we could do to help Jon get reelected. Now, if you cannot accept the concept that maybe my LBGTI family would be better served by giving money to Bill Baroni, and not to Paul Sacco, you can go f** yourself, my Flaming Moderate.

It IS that simple.

Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends.

I may not have a lot of pain to distribute, but I am damn sure going to see to it that it gets delivered where it is most needed.


Volunteer labor (4.00 / 2)
The untold story of this boycott is the volunteer hours that may/may not be there for the State Democrats moving forward.

On all the campaigns I've worked in NJ, there have always been enough LBGTs helping out to qualify for its own Gay pride float.

activist for hire.


[ Parent ]
with all due respect to the Yes voters... (4.00 / 2)
...in the Senate, there is not a single one of them who needs our money.  They might deserve it and when push comes to shove will probably get it, but if we want to truly send a message to the anti-marriage equality and anti-progressive Democrats in NJ, the surest way is to fund the campaigns of primary challengers against the Democratic 9.

I think that Steven is absolutely right to refuse to give money to the Democratic Party anymore, but what I really want to read is that GSE and the progressive community have declared war on the Democratic 9.  The only thing that politicians understand is fear and the progressive community needs to make the Democratic Party fear us as much as the Republican Party fears the teabagging wingnuts.

It should not surprise anyone that President Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, would call us retarded, but Sarah Palin is the one who gets him to apologize for making the statement.  And as a mea culpa, does Rahmbo agree to meet with Howard Dean to show progressives that he values our support for the Democratic Party?  Of course not!  He goes and meets with the head of the Special Olympics!

The only thing that I could imagine being more ludicrous than this chain of events would be if Emanuel had called someone a FAG and instead of meeting with Barney Frank or the head of the HRC to apologize, he takes a meeting with the tobacco lobby.

I said it in 2007 and I will say it again now.  Opponents of marriage equality and other progressive issues must face primary challenges or the progressive community will never be respected sufficiently for our issues of concern to get their due consideration.


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